Thanks for the replys fellows, I think I am going to take you all,s advise and get one of the models that has been proven.I have no experence on yaks yet so I need to depend on those who do have. I really like the malibu yaks like the stelth or the x factor.I am hoping to have it before spring gets here and meeting some of you guys in person O.T.W. This sight has really helped me alot to get started in this sport with all the post and great videos & pic. Thanks Again