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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2013, 11:29 PM »
funny derrick calling some other yakers CHUMPS being a moderator
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 12:54 AM »
If i wasnt a mod id still talk shit lol

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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2013, 12:59 AM »
Well if you don't want boundaries. We can do that but an alaskan halibut and Salmon. An Idaho Lake trout could take most of it. but wouldn't be fair to those who are not able to travel.  
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2013, 01:03 AM »
P.S. I think the whole state is great. If you can't do it in the State Derrick, then you should save your cash! Since there is a nice prize I think I'm forced to fish. I'm all set a new yak and can use another one.
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2013, 04:42 PM »
funny derrick calling some other yakers CHUMPS being a moderator

Pretty sure Derrick is not talking about any guys on here lots of other online events have county boundary, north of point A, or only LA, Ventura and Santa Barbara line. Makes it no good for guys that don't fish that area all that often or even only spend 50% of there time in those zones.

Some guys are not into online tournaments, that's fine with me it's there for those that like it.

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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2013, 11:31 AM »
Ryan when you get a chance please list which  species for AOTY will require a fork measurement.  Thanks man



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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2013, 11:58 AM »
Ryan when you get a chance please list which  species for AOTY will require a fork measurement.  Thanks man

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2. Photographs with a digital camera providing evidence of the fish size with total length of fish taken in the center of the fish in the first picture and then a close up of the tail section must be provided at a minimum. The fish should not be stretched, bent, or manipulated in any way to enhance the fish length. The fish should also be in as natural lay position, mouth must be closed and against the 0 or other even number, and whole fish visible in at least one of the photos. If there is no picture provided with the whole fish against a measuring devise then the fish will be disqualified.   

The rules are pretty simple.
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2013, 12:07 PM »
Hea asking because sturgeon are messured by the dfg as a fork length. So legality vers compition isnt a bad question

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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2013, 12:21 PM »
Hea asking because sturgeon are messured by the dfg as a fork length. So legality vers compition isnt a bad question

I didn't say it was a bad question. I am just refering to the current rules which dictate the measurment is to be taken from the nose to the tip of the tail of every fish. As long as it is over 40 inches it counts, but fish over 60 count as well because this is a catch photo release contest and does not follow DFW rules because the fish may be immedieatly released.

If Ryan intends the fork measurment to be what is scored in this tournement the rules need to be changed.
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2013, 12:25 PM »
Also states it has to be a fish of legal length lol

7. No out off season or undersize may be entered. All local water rules must be followed at all times. Including proper measuring of fish per DFG. Fork Length.
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2013, 12:32 PM »
, dfg has a bonito and sturgeon as examples needing fork measurement , versus to longest point on tail for other species.Aoty rules also state all dfg rules apply including fork length measuring, so just wanted to clarify which species are considered fork tail.  I got sturgeon  and pretty sure yellowtail. I interpreted that to mean that there would be two different ways to determine length based on species type for the contest.  



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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2013, 12:37 PM »
just saying the rule reads "total length," and not legal measurment.

So to me that means the contest is a total length contest until otherwise notified, however, the contest does not condone poaching, so follow all DFW rules.
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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2013, 01:40 PM »
This discussion is why I asked for a clarification,  rule 2 says a picture of total length and picture example shows nose to longest point of tail, rule 7 says all local water rules apply, including dfg fork measuring rules. Picture example shows dfg example for proper fork measurement for fork tail species.  All DFW rules must be followed so here is where than can be misunderstandings.  A fork tailed fish that is legal  by total length but not by fork length measure would be an illegal fish  according to DFW,therefore inadmissable.how would A fish of legal size by fork measurement be scored ? based on the fork measurement or total length.   



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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2013, 02:02 PM »
Im sure were going to follow the dfg rules of fork length but when Ryan's done trying to catch me on 2013 KFY up in big sur ill talk to him ;)

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Re: 2014 Kayak Fisherman of the Year Suggestions.... E.I. AOTY...
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2013, 03:01 PM »
Im sure were going to follow the dfg rules of fork length but when Ryan's done trying to catch me on 2013 KFY up in big sur ill talk to him ;)

Dogpound is right about the rule not being clear, but as far as I see it the regulation does not matter for the contest as long as you are within the state's rules. The measurement used to tell if a fish is of legal length and the measurment used in a fishing contest are two seperate things. If the rule was to measure the the alternate length, we would measure from the dorsal to the tail. 
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