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Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« on: May 08, 2017, 09:09 AM »
I'm pretty sure I hooked into an incidental salmon last week out of MDO. It took my jig and kept running. Running! No head shake or trying to dive. It just took off for about 15 seconds before the hook was thrown. Some people say it could have been a WSB. But, I have had the pleasure of hooking up with a lot of salmon in my life and I'm pretty sure this was another one. On the other hand, I've never hooked up with a WSB. Anyways, this got me thinking about setting up a down-rigger on my kayak. Has anyone else done this on a paddle kayak? The only thing I have found is people with Hobie kayaks installing them because they have the luxury of hands free forward momentum to keep the lines from tangling. Would excessive tangling and bad presentation be an issue for a paddle driven kayak with a down-rigger? I think that salmon hooked me instead of the other way around. I haven't had anything fight like that for awhile out there....it wouldn't slow down for anything!


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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 11:13 AM »
Interesting, what were you using and what were you targeting?

Anyway, I've seen it done on paddle kayaks. The hardest part is keeping it out of the way of your paddle stroke. But, not unlike a normal rod holder you just have to set it up where you can still paddle efectively. Either well forward or behind you on the tankwell. I've never used a downrigger but I have trolled for salmon using a paddle and trolling and have been fairly successful with it.

 

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 12:23 PM »
Yep....it was interesting alright. I was using a Savage Gear Squish Deep Drop Erratic Fall Jig (red/orange) tied to about 8' of 25# floro, 20' from the bottom in 80' of water. I was targeting the usual... RF and Ling. So when you troll for salmon with your kayak, what kind of extra gear do you use to get your tackle down to their depth? Do you just let out a ton of line? Or do you use an inline weight? I wouldn't be too excited about putting any extra gear on my yak. If there is a simpler way to do it I'm all ears.
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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2017, 01:48 PM »
Yep....it was interesting alright. I was using a Savage Gear Squish Deep Drop Erratic Fall Jig (red/orange) tied to about 8' of 25# floro, 20' from the bottom in 80' of water. I was targeting the usual... RF and Ling. So when you troll for salmon with your kayak, what kind of extra gear do you use to get your tackle down to their depth? Do you just let out a ton of line? Or do you use an inline weight? I wouldn't be too excited about putting any extra gear on my yak. If there is a simpler way to do it I'm all ears.

Havent done it either. Most guys just go with a sinker release with a 1lb ball of lead.
Way simpler then the downrigger method.

As for the downrigger think about dragging that extra 3-4lbs of weight via a paddle kayak gonna be pretty snapped at the end of the day.

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 01:55 PM »
Here you go with a basic setup - Sinker release with a dodger or flasher and then a lure or bait of choice

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 02:51 PM »
Here you go with a basic setup - Sinker release with a dodger or flasher and then a lure or bait of choice

http://centralcoastkayakfishing.com/cckf/index.php?topic=49.msg90#msg90

Why the hell didn't I think of that? Thanks!
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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 03:00 PM »
Is this the correct release? It says 5-7lbs. I'm not sure if that's strike force or how much weight it's supposed to hold. I'm guessing strike force release.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALMON-Sinker-Release-COPPER-3in-5-7-release-from-Hayward-Fishing-/351343898293?hash=item51cdba6eb5:m:mGRHEUR_JrpD3OEWrvDlg4Q
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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2017, 04:32 PM »
Yes, that is a sinker release. I've always used a deep diver like a deep six. Here is the setup I use. Similar to the weight release but without losing the expense of your lead and leaving it on the sea floor.

I've seen people have success with both. Just a preference thing.
 

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2017, 04:39 PM »
Another consideration is where the salmon are holding and how deep you're fishing. Divers come in different sizes to get your bait to the depth where the fish are but a diver will only ever go so deep. I'd have to refresh on the depths but if I remember right, about 150 feet is max. So divers work well when the fish are holding in the mid to upper column.

 If the fish are deep, then a sinker release may be what's needed to reach them. Usually if the salmon are deep then getting them from the yak isn't likely anyway.
 

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2017, 07:24 PM »
Remember if you do have a salmon on board you can no longer use barbed and multiple hooks.

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 11:13 PM »
Remember if you do have a salmon on board you can no longer use barbed and multiple hooks.

Oh yeah! Very good reminder, fishlips. One Hook, barbless or barbs smashed down. And they better be smashed down smooth as a babies ass. DFW WILL CHECK
 

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 11:17 PM »
If the salmon get within kayak range more consistently, I'm itching to give it a go. I've tried a couple times. One skunk and one hookup only to lose it right at the net! Factory knot popped on a watermelon Apex. I re-tie everything now, I'm not having that happen again.

It's a lot of work but so damn cool to hook one. Maybe this will be the year?
 

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2017, 08:22 AM »
I'm totally down for a Salmon trip if they move in. I've really been wanting to try for them.

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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2017, 08:36 AM »
We should try out by the red buoy in Avila/shell beach area. About 2 miles off. Fish are 150-190ish. If I'm right those deep six divers usually won't get past 70' deep. Unless ur using a motor or pumping ur legs like a marathon. I can make 1lb rock cod weights.
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Re: Down-rigger on a kayak....not a Hobie
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2017, 12:53 PM »
Sounds good to me Corey!
 

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